From: Stan Kalisch III 
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,ne.internet.services,
alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,crl.general,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Stan KalIIIsch Takes A Flying Fuck
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:37:35 -0800


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I have some time, so, assuming you care, you can recheck your facts...
(Assuming they were even checked in the first place)  Don't assume,
however, that I feel obligated to continue this thread.

(By the way, if people on CRL don't want this thread in crl.general, let
me know--I'm indulging someone's premise that it's on-topic)

On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Friendly Neighborhood Meowbot wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:15:36 +0000, "Raoul C. Xemblinosky III"
>  wrote:
> 
> >Stan Kalisch III wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Raoul C. Xemblinosky III wrote:
> >> > Stan Kalisch III wrote:
> >> 
> >> <...>
> >> 
> >> > > Which leaves us where?  Am I supposed to take you seriously or not?  Do
> >> > > you care?  And where does *that* leave us?
> >> > >
> >> > > If I'm so humorless, and you're supposedly so concerned about what I do,
> >> > > shouldn't you work me from a different angle, then?
> >> >
> >> > Is it so hard to believe the net.execution you carried out on Raoul
> >> > Xemblinosky in February 1997 might have left me with a modicum of
> >> > lingering concern about what you do, Stanley?
> >> 
> >> It gets harder to believe the more you make light of it.  And it's not
> >> exactly as though I didn't give you a way to avoid it.  Why didn't you?
> >> You were clearly intelligent enough to be able to do so.
> >
> >What you gave me was the URL to Tim Skirvin's spam guidelines page,
> >which I already had.  What you did not give me was your interpretation
> >of how cascades constituted spam.

I never said all cascades constituted spam.

> He didn't like them or the posters so they constituted spam in his
> eyes.

I never said that; you continue to say things you have no way of knowing.

> As documented in another thread, Chris Lewis was resurrecting
> many of Stan's cancels because they were rogue; the articles cancelled
> were below the Breidbart Index threshold of 20.

You're wrong on both counts--furthermore, non-rogue cancels (including
those from people who posted the article being cancelled) often trigger
the reposting mechanism in news.admin.net-abuse.* .

Now, to the most interesting part of your post:

> I just finished reviewing CRL's AUP.  It does not prohibit cancelling
> other people's articles by means of forgery.

I'm most certainly not pretending to be anyone else, so your definition of
forgery is pretty useless.

> Stan takes advantage of that oversight.  However, the policy does
> prohibit the use of "bots". 
> 
> So not only is Stanley in contravention of standard usenet
> practices, <...>

You're saying so doesn't make it so.

<...> he also violates his ISP's AUP.

Once again, you're guilty of a faulty premise.  You apply your *own*
definition to the word *bot*, not CRL's.  I don't recall telling you how
my cancelling software works.

Even whether or not all my cancelling software ran on CRL.

So, once again, you're speaking far beyond the scope of your own
knowledge.  It's not becoming.

<...>

> Consensus to Stan on usenet is like consensus for Biil Palmer on
> sexual relations (masturbation).  All it takes is himself.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, and thanked for your concern
for my sex life.

<...>

> >> If that were true,
> >> Zippo would have received a complaint about your most recent spam.  I'm
> >> probably bending too far in that regard as it is.
> 
> Keep on reaching for that bar of soap ...

Why?  Because you *say* I'm dirty?  Sorry, but I'd like to keep my skin.


Stan

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